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Sabah Claim july 2008

luvimiah (210.14.43.249) - Thu Jul 17 02:03:26 2008

Today, the Heirs of the Sulatanete of Sulu are thinking giving up their claim to Sabah. How's the Philippine claim, who will support???!!!! The Filipinos in Sabah, the history!!!???? If the Heirs will drop their claim for the money, ..soon thats money will not be able to support the needs of the province, ..so I think its better to continue the claim to ICJ, the government(other OFFICIAL) has the effort for our claim. If the claim will success then Sabah is ours, for the developments od Sulu and neighbors, there's a lot of business and source of money there!!!!!!! I think it will never happen, for our claim not to success, the only problem is that when our fellow pilipinos drop the claim or they have already sold the land for money(especially our officials, but that money will be enough soon!!!!)

The Land is ours not with malaysia!!!! The land was leased to British company, and the fault there is that it was transfer to malaysia later on, maybe because other lands at that time was under the british company(malaya, etc.)!!! But that's illegal right, Sabah was leased in inperpuity and shall not be transfered to other nation without the consent of the Sulatanate!!!!!

Then Sabah is ours, Malaysia is still paying the rent to the sultanate. But how about our fellow pinoys there, they're accused as illegal. Malaysia should pay the right amount.

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Comment #1 jose andress (68.60.227.93) - Fri Jul 18 08:14:38 2008

Sulu claimants deny reports they have given up on Sabah

By Julie Alipala, Ed General

Mindanao Bureau

First Posted 20:11:00 07/17/2008

JOLO, Sulu, Philippines—(UPDATE) Sabah claimants Sultan Ismael Kiram II and Rajah Muda Agbimuddin Kiram have denied reports from Kota Kinabalu that the heirs of the Sulu sultanate were dropping their claims on North Borneo.

"What is being reported that nine principal heirs (dropped the Sabah claim) is not true. I hope the Inquirer will help us straighten facts, " their spokesman, Abraham Idjirani, told the Philippine Daily Inquirer Thursday. The two are presently in Malaysia.

In a report on Malaysian newspaper The Star, Datu Omar Ali Datu Backtiyal said Wednesday he had obtained the signatures of the nine heirs of the late Sultan Mohamat Jamal Al Alam agreeing to relinquish their claim on the Malaysian state.

At the same time, Putra Eddy Sulaiman, “executive secretary and Keeper of the Royal Seal” of Rodinood Julaspi Kiram II, who claims to be the closest heir to the Sulu sultanate, said Kiram was also dropping the claim on Sabah.

Agbimuddin Kiram is the official administrator of Sabah, appointed by his father Sultan Punjungan Kiram, who in turn was appointed administrator of North Borneo by the Sessions Court of North Borneo under Justice Macaskie in 1939.

The issue on dropping Sabah claim would require lengthy discussions involving not just the Sulu Sultanate but the United Nations, as well, according to Idjirani.

"There are many important issues to be discussed before dropping the Sabah claim and one important issue is the condition and situations surrounding the descendants' welfare. It is an established fact that the Sabah issue is waiting for the pending resolution at the United Nations, " Idjirani added.

The two descendants of the Sultan of Sulu are in Malaysia, but not for the Sabah claim. They have been discussing issues with Datu Omar Ali Dati Backtiyal pertaining to the immediate review of the 1963 Manila Accord that was signed by Malaysia Prime Minister Tongko Abdurahman, Sukarno of Indonesia and President Diosdado Macapagal of the Philippines.

The 1963 Manila Accord, according to Idjirani, pertains to the inclusion of Sabah into the Federation of Malaysia that would not prejudice the entry of refugees and interests of the parties concerned.

"Sultan Ismael Kiram II is very much concerned about the plight of the refugees and we are here in Malaysia to visit and see for ourselves the situations and conditions of the refugees, " the spokesperson said, referring to the Filipinos who would soon be deported by Sabah.

He added that Kiram’s talks with Backtiyal revolved around a joint undertaking that would resolve the refugees' problems in Sabah, with emphasis on humanitarian concerns.

Meanwhile, a lawyer representing the heirs and administrators of the former Sultanate of Sulu branded on Thursday as lies reports that they had dropped the Sabah claim.

Lawyer Ulka Ulama told the Philippine Daily Inquirer by phone that "nobody has the power to drop the claim up to now."

"We do not have a sultan anymore, who has territory and government. The last sultanate existed up to 1936 only, " he said.

Ulama said the claim of Datu Omar Ali Datu Backtiyal about securing the signatures of the nine heirs to the sultanate was not true either.

"It will never happen. I have been a lawyer for the heirs of the sultanate and those recognized administrators of the sultanate for 40 years now, " he said.

Ulama said it would be impossible for Backtiyal to secure the signatures of the heirs because they already died.

"Those must be fake heirs. Only the administrators are living now, " he said.

Among the recognized administrators is Datu Esmail Kiram of the Mora Napsa heir, according to Ulama.

Reacting to the same report, which said that another claimant to the sultanate, Rodinood Julaspi Kiram II, also dropped his claim to Sabah, Ulama said he was one of those considered "fake."

"He said he descended from Sultan Jamalul Kiram II who has no known heir so he is not real also, " Ulama said.

Ulama vowed to come out with an official statement in the next few days to dispute the Backtiyal claim and that of Rodinood.

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